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Raiders and NFL Talk / RE: Raiders' move to LA in the '80s
« Last post by Randy on April 29, 2014, 10:12:36 AM »
Quote from: Randy



The Raiders didn't leave Oakland in '87...The Raiders were in L.A. for the 1982 through 1994 seasons. I know you must have just hit the wrong key when you typed that message, but just wanted to clarify that for people who might not know the right dates.
Well the title of the video said 1987 meaning they did the TV spot in 1987 ....So when I said this video is how Raider fans  felt back in 1987 means exactly what I said....I didn't say ....in 1987 is when the Raiders moved to L.A.

I thought that's probably what you meant Mike, but I just clairified it in case someone who doesn't know the history like you do might read where you said, "...HOW PEOPLE FELT AND VIEWED THE RAIDERS AFTER THEY LEFT BACK IN 1987".....and they might think it meant that they left in '87. It was kind of strange in that video how they showed the old abandoned practice field in Alameda, where a parking space still had Kenny Stabler's name on it in '87....even though he played for the Oilers in '80 and '81, the last two years the Raiders were in Oakland before moving to LA. The fact that Stabler had been feuding with Al Davis and was traded....and wasn't with the Raiders those last two years....I would have thought Al would have had Stabler's name painted over on that parking space.

I still have a snapshot I took in '81 with my camera, when I was standing in row 1 in front of the old bleachers at the Coliseum as the Raiders and Oilers were warming up for a game....and Stabler is standing there in his Oilers uniform talking to Bum Phillips....wearing his trademark cowboy hat.

When Al Davis traded Stabler to Houston, it was a straight across trade, QB for QB....Stabler for Dan Pastorini. I think he liked Pastorini's strong arm, for stretching the field, and he was 30 years old compared with Stabler at 34. That didn't work out too well. What did Pastorini play? Four games? Well, actually it did work out well in the end....when Pastorini broke his leg.  I had season tickets then...my first year. When his leg snapped, the crowd cheered because he hadn't done all that well and they wanted to see Jim Plunkett. Plunkett stepped in and led the Raiders to the Superbowl, and won it...as everyone knows. The "cinderella season" as they called it.

Thanks Mike. See you when the season starts!


Check out this old article I found about the trade:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=861&dat=19800315&id=Dc5HAAAAIBAJ&sjid=U38MAAAAIBAJ&pg=7270,3550763


Here's a couple more interesting articles I ran across that tell the story of what was happening with the Raiders back then:

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/09/30/sports/pastorini-is-itching-to-get-in-the-game.html

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1095212/
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Quote from: Randy



The Raiders didn't leave Oakland in '87...The Raiders were in L.A. for the 1982 through 1994 seasons. I know you must have just hit the wrong key when you typed that message, but just wanted to clarify that for people who might not know the right dates.
Well the title of the video said 1987 meaning they did the TV spot in 1987 ....So when I said this video is how Raider fans  felt back in 1987 means exactly what I said....I didn't say ....in 1987 is when the Raiders moved to L.A.
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This episode #27 of the "OverTheCap" podcast talks some about the Raiders. Should they trade down in the draft? Should they trade for Ndamukong Suh?

Here are the show notes:

In this weeks podcast we go over more questions on why I was so critical of the Raiders offseason, Chris Johnson’s signing with the Jets, the Lions possible trade of Ndamukong Suh, draft day trades and if the Raiders should consider it, the Saints future salary cap, and more…

OverTheCap Website:
http://overthecap.com/podcast-raiders-cj2k-suh-draft-trades/

Download OverTheCap podcast episode #27:
http://overthecap.com/podcast47.mp3
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With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as

Remember the "Oakland Invaders"?  I wonder if Randy remembers that?  ....

http://youtu.be/mjgMhE9jc7w

Oh, of course I remember the Invaders. One of the firefighters I worked with back then had been a long-time Raiders season ticket holder.....back to the '60's I think....and when the Raiders moved to L.A., he got pissed off at Al Davis and bought Oakland Invaders season tickets and was a member of the Invaders booster club. I just couldn't do it. A bunch of other former Raiders fans in the FD jumped ship to the 49ers, since they won their first Superbowl right before the Raiders moved. I had Raiders season tickets in '80 and '81.....but I wasn't going to jump ship. I still have a few Los Angeles Raiders t-shirts in my drawer.

The Raiders last year before moving to LA, 1981.....the year the 49ers won the Superbowl......the Raiders went 7-9. They had a three game streak near the beginning of that season when they were shut out three straight games. That was the first time an NFL team had been shut out three consecutive games since the 1920's, when it happened to the New York Yankees football team.

The Raiders' first year in LA was the strike-shortened season, and the Raiders went 8-1 using "scab" players, with Vince Evans as their QB, remember him? That same year......the Superbowl Champion 49ers went 3-6 in the strike-shortened season. I won money from one of my 49er fan friends that year. We used to make a bet every year on who would have a better record between the Raiders and 49ers. He tried to weasel out of the bet by saying that "all bets are off" because of the strike. I didn't let him get away with it.
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With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as

SO HEY GREG WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT THE RAIDERS TO MOVE TO L.A. ....JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO AND REFLECT ON HOW PEOPLE FELT AND VIEWED THE RAIDERS AFTER THEY LEFT BACK IN 1987....


http://youtu.be/mjgMhE9jc7w

The Raiders didn't leave Oakland in '87...The Raiders were in L.A. for the 1982 through 1994 seasons. I know you must have just hit the wrong key when you typed that message, but just wanted to clarify that for people who might not know the right dates.
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With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as

SO HEY GREG WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT THE RAIDERS TO MOVE TO L.A. ....JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO AND REFLECT ON HOW PEOPLE FELT AND VIEWED THE RAIDERS AFTER THEY LEFT BACK IN 1987.....THE RAIDERS SOLD OUT FOR THE GLITTER OF HOLLYWOOD AND 30,000 empty seats regularly .....THAT'S WHY AL CAME BACK TO OAKLAND! ....HE KNEW THE FAN BASE HERE IS GENUINE AND CARES ABOUT THEIR TEAM EVEN WHEN THEY LOSE 2-14 2006 sell out 5 of 8 games ...NEVER HAPPEN IN L.A.!  .....watch Ricky at Ricky's bar get interviewed and watch him babble about Oakland getting a expansion team and starting over ..,,Remember the "Oakland Invaders"?  I wonder if Randy remembers that?  .....yeah when they chase the new stadium and TV market of L.A. .....Watch this  franchise die and lose Mystique and the hardcore fan base that came with it ....will there still be some left? Of course I'm a Raider for life ....but PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO AND WATCH THE REACTION TO FANS .....AND THEN TELL ME YOU WANT THAT FOR THE PEOPLE OF OAKLAND WHO FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS HAVE GAVE EVERYTHING TO SEE THIS TEAM WIN!


http://youtu.be/mjgMhE9jc7w

 
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Why do the Raiders have the toughest schedule in the NFL for 2014?

http://www.ibtimes.com/oakland-raiders-news-2014-why-do-raiders-have-hardest-schedule-nfl-1576614

I say: Bring it on.

If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.

We can do it. And if not, we can at least give 'em hell.  8)
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Why do the Raiders have the toughest schedule in the NFL for 2014?

http://www.ibtimes.com/oakland-raiders-news-2014-why-do-raiders-have-hardest-schedule-nfl-1576614
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THE "BONELINE" 1-800-620-7181 / Boneline 800 call-in line is down temporarily...
« Last post by Randy on April 25, 2014, 07:22:20 PM »
We just realized that our "Boneline" call-in line has been down for a couple of weeks apparently. It doesn't look like we'll be able to get it back up until Monday. The people we need to talk to are gone for the weekend.

We're planning to do a podcast soon, but it looks like we won't have too many boneline calls for it, since we had only received one call before the line went down.
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With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as
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