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Sorry, I don't agree about Pryor or Vick.  Almost every pass Pryor threw against the Broncos was short. Pocket passer is not his natural game, he's a runner first and a passer second.  That just makes our offence 1 dimensional and once opponents take away his ability to run they are prepared to play the odds that any passes he attempts are going to be incomplete.

He spends an awful lot of time running backwards from the line of scrimmage costing us yards and seems almost pig-headed when it comes to giving up on a play and throwing the ball away.  He's has what, 2 training camps and 1 regular season and he looks worse now than when he started in September.  I know everyone wants Pryor to be the guy because he was Al's last pick but realistically this guy is a bust.  I'd be interested to see Pryor moved from the QB spot to an RB spot and let's really see what he can do with those legs.

As for Michael Vick we need to be looking for the next new solid QB not another has-been who has had limited success.  Vick is ranked 84th amongst playoff starting QBs with a 2 & 3 record and that's not someone to rebuild a team around.  While his regular season career record of 58-48-1 is a winning record his best years are behind him, he hasn't played a full season since 2006 and only played 7 games this year and 10 games last year.

I don't think McGloin is the answer either but, in the absence of anyone better, I'd rather try to move forward with McGloin than I would with Pryor and I don't want to see Vick anywhere near Oaktown.

Raiders have never developed a QB in their history.

I'm not going to fault Pryor for that because it's just fact. whether it's Russell, Maravich or Andrew Walter we just draft bums.

If you say Pryor doesn't have it after 8 starts & a doghouse decision by Dennis which flushed the Raiders chance at competing this year then that's your right. I just believe if we are going to give this pathetic coach another season to show us what he has got then Pryor has earned the right to come back & compete for the starting job. 
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Sorry, I don't agree about Pryor or Vick.  Almost every pass Pryor threw against the Broncos was short. Pocket passer is not his natural game, he's a runner first and a passer second.  That just makes our offence 1 dimensional and once opponents take away his ability to run they are prepared to play the odds that any passes he attempts are going to be incomplete.

He spends an awful lot of time running backwards from the line of scrimmage costing us yards and seems almost pig-headed when it comes to giving up on a play and throwing the ball away.  He's has what, 2 training camps and 1 regular season and he looks worse now than when he started in September.  I know everyone wants Pryor to be the guy because he was Al's last pick but realistically this guy is a bust.  I'd be interested to see Pryor moved from the QB spot to an RB spot and let's really see what he can do with those legs.

As for Michael Vick we need to be looking for the next new solid QB not another has-been who has had limited success.  Vick is ranked 84th amongst playoff starting QBs with a 2 & 3 record and that's not someone to rebuild a team around.  While his regular season career record of 58-48-1 is a winning record his best years are behind him, he hasn't played a full season since 2006 and only played 7 games this year and 10 games last year.

I don't think McGloin is the answer either but, in the absence of anyone better, I'd rather try to move forward with McGloin than I would with Pryor and I don't want to see Vick anywhere near Oaktown.
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Raiders and NFL Talk / Oakland Raiders offseason primer: Key events, dates, etc.
« Last post by Randy on January 03, 2014, 11:39:26 AM »
Oakland Raiders 2014 Offseason Primer
Raiders.com

The 2013 season is in the books and we are quickly turning our attention to the 2014 campaign. The offseason is already shaping up to be busy and exciting.

http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/2014-Offseason-Primer/45026399-a754-4edf-af72-0ec3de083f8d
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TOPICS:

Segment #1: "Broncos @ Raiders Postgame and Raiders 2013 Season Thoughts"

Raider Greg combines a Broncos post game recap with season ending thoughts and statistics on the 2013 Oakland Raiders.

Segment #2: "As the Quarterback Turns"

The continuing saga of Dennis Allen and Terrelle Pryor. Did Coach Allen set Pryor up for failure in the final game? Will Pryor return in 2014?

Segment #3: "Lamar Houston does not think he'll be back with the Raiders in 2014"

Will the Raiders not resign one of their best players for 2014? Lamar Houston doesn't seem to think so. Should Lamar be speaking to the press on this issue?

Segment #4: "Oakland Raiders 2013 - Who is fooling who?"

How did the Raiders 2013 season live up to expectations of the media and the fans?

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Supposedly the Raiders turned down an offer to coach the senior bowl.

If you are able to connect the dots I'd guess that it could have to do with no firm decision made on whether the coach will be back year 3.

Please Fire Dennis, Mark. He is garbage.
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Terrelle Pryor could be the guy but this coaching staff is horrible.

I reckon there is a correlation between Seabass awful year kicking and the head coach. (also that he resigned long term)

Terrelle Pryor was a justified starter until the Giants game when he was injured. DA was a idiot for not pulling McGloin sooner enough when it was blowout after blowout. He should of gone back to Pryor after Dallas game or NYJ at the very least.

Rumour has it we will be chasing Michael Vick to mentor Terrelle Pryor.. I can get onboard with that. Vick is a winner when not injured (& I would happily take Pryor as a backup on the weeks Vick isn't ready to go)
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I agree, this was a really bad end to another really bad season and more evidence that Pryor isn't the guy for us.  I don't agree about Allen though, I still think wee need to see this rebuild through to completion and let him finish his 3rd year, especially as year 1 was a total washout with the whole Greg Knapp thing.
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Glad to see you back, hope you all had a good holiday season.
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Raiders and NFL Talk / Chat transcript with Raiders beat writer Scott Bair - 12/31/13
« Last post by Randy on January 01, 2014, 01:31:33 PM »
Chat transcript with Raiders beat writer Scott Bair - 12/31/13
http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/scott-bairs-raiders-chat-transcript-123113
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RNP Fantasy Football Leagues / Re: Division 2 Fantasy League - 2013
« Last post by Matty Raider on December 30, 2013, 01:13:02 PM »
I WON!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Pulled the first place out my rear end man.  I was unable to draft my team due to prior plans, so my team was auto-drafted and I really lucked out with some studs.  I am looking forward to playing with the big boys next year!  Thanks Oscar for managing the league and Asia Raiders for a great championship matchup!
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