Apologies for backing up millernation... I only read the bottom post where he talked about the stereotypes associated with being a raiderfan... I didn't scroll down further enough to read he instigated this bullshit with labelling mexican thugs.You don't know much about hip-hop do U and I didn't say all thugs were mexican. When the raiders were in L.A., the media here pushed the raider fans are mexican thugs stereotype and it is still here to this day. When fights broke out and injuries occurred in the coliseum, the local media would mostly show hispanics in raider gear hollering into the camera. That left those who never went to games to believe the coliseum was filled with hispanics who beat up on those who didn't support the raiders. In particular there was one incident that the local media wouldn't let go involving a pittsburgh fan who was badly injured in the bathroom and stopped into the urinal. When the local media showed Rams highlights, they cut-a-ways usually featured caucasions wearing watermelons on their heads. Crips and bloods don't wear raider sh!t anymore. So yeah, raiders fans here are stereotyped and mexican or hispanic thugs, not crips or bloods or skinheads. It wasn't a dig at mexicans nor did I say I believed the stereotype. I'm trying to get rid of it. You may have saw my comments but didn't read them
Hey millernation, buddy raiders will always be identified with the "Thuglife" the Raiders are hiphops football team, if you don't like it then there's always the Chargers or Whiners. (Raider THUGS are Mexican, Indian, Blackman, Chinaman & then in Australia & malls across the Midwest America there's bunch of crackerjacks like myself who wear our jeans to low and our raider caps back the front)
I guess there's a lot of old schoolers out there who wondered what happened to there team when NWA threw on a raider hat and suddenly became part of the hiphop revolution.
So yeah fellas (esp Juan)... Please accept my humble apologies for not scrolling further enough down to read where this all started. Had Millernation just said "I hate being labeled as a thug cause im a raider fan" then i'd probably have his back... But for him to single out the Mexican as Thugs was downright disrespectful to any blackman/chinaman/whiteman who chooses to wear the Raiders Embelem to represent there THUGGINESS.
NWA went to raider gear because of the organizations image for being bad asses but mostly because the raiders were in LOS ANGELES and their colors didn't involve blue or red so they wouldn't be affiliated with the bloods or the crips.
i went to PF Changs at the Beverly Center last night and saw about 15 dudes and ALL of them were rocking the throwback Raiders shit AND NWA shit...the old script LA Raiders hats (i was wearing one myself), letterman jackets with either NWA or Raiders on them...all of them were black dudes, no mexicans...meanwhile (i'm as white as they come by the way) i was sitting there rocking my old LA raiders script fitted...so all people of all colors like the team...obviously the majority of NFL fans are WHITE people, that makes sense because white people are the majority...and all teams probably have proportionate amounts of white fans...same with black fans, im sure all teams have about the same percentage of black fans...however when it comes to hispanic people, i would bet that the Raiders have a slightly higher percentage of fans in that race along with only a couple other teams...but you gotta take location into account...why is everyone getting all butt hurt about some shit that obviously no one gives a shit about...just let it die
The original argument has degenerated into a dick measuring contest between miller, juan and everyone else...bottom line is, whether juan is fat or millernation is a cock chugger or whatever he is being called these days, we all need to leave the personal attacks at the door..
PS: no one is arguing about Mexicans being thugs...who cares
obviously the original spark that ignited this entire debate was miller asking (or stating)...does raider nation not care that they are stereotyped as Mexican thugs?
what i have gotten from the posts over time is "NO"...at least no one on this forum cares about being labeled as anything...we all know what raider nation is really about and could care less what the rest of the world sees us as...
that being said, can someone please start up a new argument because this whole mexican thug/crips bloods/racial minority shit is getting played out...
raider nation IS made up of Mexican thugs...and Bloods, and Crips...straight people...gay people...white people...black people...millionaires and homeless people...WHO GIVES A SHIT