Stadium Issues

[Randy]

Investment group offers to purchase Coliseum, keep Raiders in Oakland

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/09/20/investment-group-offers-to-purchase-coliseum-keep-raiders-in-oakland/

[Randy]

LAS VEGAS -- A plan to build an NFL stadium in Las Vegas and lure the Raiders from Oakland crossed a major hurdle Thursday when a Nevada oversight committee voted unanimously to recommend $750 million in public funding for the project.


Raiders to Las Vegas? Stadium proposal clears major hurdle
http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-to-Las-Vegas-Stadium-proposal-clears-9226035.php

SNTIC unanimously recommends Raiders Las Vegas stadium funding
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2016/9/15/12933092/sntic-unanimously-approves-raiders-las-vegas-stadium-funding

Stadium plan to lure Raiders to Las Vegas passes vote
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000703280/article/stadium-plan-to-lure-raiders-to-las-vegas-passes-vote

Wayne Newton would try to buy a slice of Las Vegas Raiders
http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/09/14/wayne-newton-would-try-to-by-a-slice-of-las-vegas-raiders/

Are Raiders closer to exit with Las Vegas approving new stadium?
http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/09/15/raiders-future-hinges-on-las-vegas-vote-today/">Are Raiders closer to exit with Las Vegas approving new stadium?

[Raider G360]

I feel like the Raiders will be staying in Oakland. My guess on why the city of Oakland has been dragging their feet on a new stadium is that they want the Raiders to be a winning team first then, magically, the money to help build a new stadium will appear.

The Raiders will be a winning team this year (I'm predicting at least 11-5). I think the excitement surrounding their success early in the season will be a driving force in negotiations with the city of Oakland. Playoffs will also be a huge factor. I believe Oakland wants to see a football team that has a bright future, and right now that's the Raiders.

[Another Porter]

I live in England and havent had the chance to attend a game in Oakland yet, but the Raiders, for me, belong in Oakland. I hope they find a way to stay. I wantdd to come over this yeaf but cant afford it as I'm getting married in New York on Monday.

[Randy]

Oakland: New investor on board for Coliseum City
By Matthew Artz, Oakland Tribune

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_26754006/oakland-new-investor-board-coliseum-city

[RAIDERNITEMARE]

It seems like the city Oakland doesn't really care if the Raiders stay in Oaktown....if they did they would of got a new stadium deal built already....if they keep putting it off the Raiders just might be gone by then all L.A. needs is a HELL YEAH by Mark Davis, BOOM a stadium is built....

[Raider Dee]

Well ?

[RaiderWildeStyle]

I believe that Al Davis was Guaranteed sellouts when he decided to move to Los Angeles .As you can see on old film footage there were about 30,000 EMPTY seats at The Los Angeles memorial Coliseum on game days .He was Also promised by Los Angeles officials that they would have Luxury Suites at the Coliseum built.This NEVER Happened.I am Told that The City Officials in Oakland promised and built what Raiders fans call MT Davis(Luxury seats/boxes),to bring the Raiders back to Oakland .I believe the citizens of Oakland paid for this.Can someone please tell me how much of the taxpayers money paid for MT Davis and how much of Al's money/private money went into financing MT Davis and the Oakland Coliseum?

I don't know how much it cost.

I know they still have 100m to pay off of Mt Davis.

I've also heard (via twitter from someone who knows a Coliseum Maitenance worker) *take info with grain of salt* but Mt Davis has been deemed unsafe to use because of cracks in the beam.

So whilst the media beats up that Raiders has an attendance issue and has to utilise tarps.. the real reason Mt Davis has been closed off is it's a liability waiting to crumble. (It kind of makes perfect sense because the A's don't even open up Mt Davis for the ALDS)

Actually don't quote me on that last bit.

I just tried searching for the tweet & unfortunately no such luck.

But sounded legit reasoning why we supposedly have an attendance issue.

[RaiderWildeStyle]

I believe that Al Davis was Guaranteed sellouts when he decided to move to Los Angeles .As you can see on old film footage there were about 30,000 EMPTY seats at The Los Angeles memorial Coliseum on game days .He was Also promised by Los Angeles officials that they would have Luxury Suites at the Coliseum built.This NEVER Happened.I am Told that The City Officials in Oakland promised and built what Raiders fans call MT Davis(Luxury seats/boxes),to bring the Raiders back to Oakland .I believe the citizens of Oakland paid for this.Can someone please tell me how much of the taxpayers money paid for MT Davis and how much of Al's money/private money went into financing MT Davis and the Oakland Coliseum?

I don't know how much it cost.

I know they still have 100m to pay off of Mt Davis.

I've also heard (via twitter from someone who knows a Coliseum Maitenance worker) *take info with grain of salt* but Mt Davis has been deemed unsafe to use because of cracks in the beam.

So whilst the media beats up that Raiders has an attendance issue and has to utilise tarps.. the real reason Mt Davis has been closed off is it's a liability waiting to crumble. (It kind of makes perfect sense because the A's don't even open up Mt Davis for the ALDS)

[houston raider]

I believe that Al Davis was Guaranteed sellouts when he decided to move to Los Angeles .As you can see on old film footage there were about 30,000 EMPTY seats at The Los Angeles memorial Coliseum on game days .He was Also promised by Los Angeles officials that they would have Luxury Suites at the Coliseum built.This NEVER Happened.I am Told that The City Officials in Oakland promised and built what Raiders fans call MT Davis(Luxury seats/boxes),to bring the Raiders back to Oakland .I believe the citizens of Oakland paid for this.Can someone please tell me how much of the taxpayers money paid for MT Davis and how much of Al's money/private money went into financing MT Davis and the Oakland Coliseum?

[houston raider]

I was fortunate to have Met Dan Pastorini...Dan told me that he was playing Pretty Good until he Got Hurt(against the Chiefs in Oakland).Some Raiders fans were Bitter that Al traded Ken Stabler to Houston. Stabler helped the Raiders Win their First Super Bowl. Alot Of Raider fans were upset with the trade and Never Embraced Pastorini. When Dan got hurt Alot of Raider fans Cheered-that was Low Class ! That Hurt Dan Alot. Plunkett came into the game and the Crowd Cheered. .Plunkett won games and Eventually The Raiders won the Super Bowl against the Eagles. There is a really Good Book on Jim Plunkett.-I checked it out from the library. Al got to a point where he didn't like Pastorini and Al treated Dan Not kindly and Pastorini was toast as far as Al was concerned(after the injury)Dan Felt that Al was Treating him badly during that time .I asked Dan about his Raider days and I could tell he wasn;t happy with Al Davis and the way some Raider fans treated him when he got injured .I asked him if he wore his Super Bowl ring and Dan said when he Got Injured it was Plunkett's team and that he Never wears that ring.
     Bobby Hebert was a qb with the Oakland invaders...and Raymond Chester and some Raiders were on the Invaders team .Bobby is on WWL radio in New Orleans(sportstalk 870 am).I listen to his shows when I can pick it up. Bobby mentioned that Fred Biletnikoff was the qb coach for the Invaders and when Bobby walked into the position room the room was filled with Fred's cigarette smoke and cig smoke from another position coach. Bobby also mentioned that when he played for the Saints that the fans sitting Directly behind their bench would yell all kind of profanities and throw stuff at them...Even old white hair grandmothers-flippin' them off and talking vile stuff. .even kids!...he said he Never experienced anything like this except the Oakland Coliseum...he was laughing about it...

[Randy]

The Raiders didn't leave Oakland in '87...The Raiders were in L.A. for the 1982 through 1994 seasons. I know you must have just hit the wrong key when you typed that message, but just wanted to clarify that for people who might not know the right dates.

Well the title of the video said 1987 meaning they did the TV spot in 1987 ....So when I said this video is how Raider fans  felt back in 1987 means exactly what I said....I didn't say ....in 1987 is when the Raiders moved to L.A.

I thought that's probably what you meant Mike, but I just clairified it in case someone who doesn't know the history like you do might read where you said, "...HOW PEOPLE FELT AND VIEWED THE RAIDERS AFTER THEY LEFT BACK IN 1987".....and they might think it meant that they left in '87. It was kind of strange in that video how they showed the old abandoned practice field in Alameda, where a parking space still had Kenny Stabler's name on it in '87....even though he played for the Oilers in '80 and '81, the last two years the Raiders were in Oakland before moving to LA. The fact that Stabler had been feuding with Al Davis and was traded....and wasn't with the Raiders those last two years....I would have thought Al would have had Stabler's name painted over on that parking space.

I still have a snapshot I took in '81 with my camera, when I was standing in row 1 in front of the old bleachers at the Coliseum as the Raiders and Oilers were warming up for a game....and Stabler is standing there in his Oilers uniform talking to Bum Phillips....wearing his trademark cowboy hat.

When Al Davis traded Stabler to Houston, it was a straight across trade, QB for QB....Stabler for Dan Pastorini. I think he liked Pastorini's strong arm, for stretching the field, and he was 30 years old compared with Stabler at 34. That didn't work out too well. What did Pastorini play? Four games? Well, actually it did work out well in the end....when Pastorini broke his leg.  I had season tickets then...my first year. When his leg snapped, the crowd cheered because he hadn't done all that well and they wanted to see Jim Plunkett. Plunkett stepped in and led the Raiders to the Superbowl, and won it...as everyone knows. The "cinderella season" as they called it.

Thanks Mike. See you when the season starts!


Check out this old article I found about the trade:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=861&dat=19800315&id=Dc5HAAAAIBAJ&sjid=U38MAAAAIBAJ&pg=7270,3550763


Here's a couple more interesting articles I ran across that tell the story of what was happening with the Raiders back then:

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/09/30/sports/pastorini-is-itching-to-get-in-the-game.html

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1095212/

[RAIDER MIKE]

The Raiders didn't leave Oakland in '87...The Raiders were in L.A. for the 1982 through 1994 seasons. I know you must have just hit the wrong key when you typed that message, but just wanted to clarify that for people who might not know the right dates.

Well the title of the video said 1987 meaning they did the TV spot in 1987 ....So when I said this video is how Raider fans  felt back in 1987 means exactly what I said....I didn't say ....in 1987 is when the Raiders moved to L.A.

[Randy]

With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as

Remember the "Oakland Invaders"?  I wonder if Randy remembers that?  ....

http://youtu.be/mjgMhE9jc7w

Oh, of course I remember the Invaders. One of the firefighters I worked with back then had been a long-time Raiders season ticket holder.....back to the '60's I think....and when the Raiders moved to L.A., he got pissed off at Al Davis and bought Oakland Invaders season tickets and was a member of the Invaders booster club. I just couldn't do it. A bunch of other former Raiders fans in the FD jumped ship to the 49ers, since they won their first Superbowl right before the Raiders moved. I had Raiders season tickets in '80 and '81.....but I wasn't going to jump ship. I still have a few Los Angeles Raiders t-shirts in my drawer.

The Raiders last year before moving to LA, 1981.....the year the 49ers won the Superbowl......the Raiders went 7-9. They had a three game streak near the beginning of that season when they were shut out three straight games. That was the first time an NFL team had been shut out three consecutive games since the 1920's, when it happened to the New York Yankees football team.

The Raiders' first year in LA was the strike-shortened season, and the Raiders went 8-1 using "scab" players, with Vince Evans as their QB, remember him? That same year......the Superbowl Champion 49ers went 3-6 in the strike-shortened season. I won money from one of my 49er fan friends that year. We used to make a bet every year on who would have a better record between the Raiders and 49ers. He tried to weasel out of the bet by saying that "all bets are off" because of the strike. I didn't let him get away with it.

[Randy]

With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as

SO HEY GREG WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT THE RAIDERS TO MOVE TO L.A. ....JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO AND REFLECT ON HOW PEOPLE FELT AND VIEWED THE RAIDERS AFTER THEY LEFT BACK IN 1987....


http://youtu.be/mjgMhE9jc7w

The Raiders didn't leave Oakland in '87...The Raiders were in L.A. for the 1982 through 1994 seasons. I know you must have just hit the wrong key when you typed that message, but just wanted to clarify that for people who might not know the right dates.

[RAIDER MIKE]

With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as

SO HEY GREG WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT THE RAIDERS TO MOVE TO L.A. ....JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO AND REFLECT ON HOW PEOPLE FELT AND VIEWED THE RAIDERS AFTER THEY LEFT BACK IN 1987.....THE RAIDERS SOLD OUT FOR THE GLITTER OF HOLLYWOOD AND 30,000 empty seats regularly .....THAT'S WHY AL CAME BACK TO OAKLAND! ....HE KNEW THE FAN BASE HERE IS GENUINE AND CARES ABOUT THEIR TEAM EVEN WHEN THEY LOSE 2-14 2006 sell out 5 of 8 games ...NEVER HAPPEN IN L.A.!  .....watch Ricky at Ricky's bar get interviewed and watch him babble about Oakland getting a expansion team and starting over ..,,Remember the "Oakland Invaders"?  I wonder if Randy remembers that?  .....yeah when they chase the new stadium and TV market of L.A. .....Watch this  franchise die and lose Mystique and the hardcore fan base that came with it ....will there still be some left? Of course I'm a Raider for life ....but PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO AND WATCH THE REACTION TO FANS .....AND THEN TELL ME YOU WANT THAT FOR THE PEOPLE OF OAKLAND WHO FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS HAVE GAVE EVERYTHING TO SEE THIS TEAM WIN!


http://youtu.be/mjgMhE9jc7w

 

[Randy]

With Coliseum City commitment deadline passed, Raiders wait on A's
Levi Damien, SB Nation
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/24/5651116/with-coliseum-city-commitment-deadline-passed-raiders-wait-on-as

[Autumn Wind Williams]

This is just another purpose why it is important for Raider fans especially those of us from Oakland to call the Mayor's, Alameda Supervisor's, City Councils' offices..

If she wants votes she has to make sure she completes what is right for the City of Oakland..Growing up I've seen so much taken away from my home and it started mainly around after the Raiders moved to L.A..Then the violence increased, more drug dealers were increasing, etc..

Why? Because jobs were taken away and depression from the lack of things to do.

[Randy]

Turns out Oakland mayor's princely claim was royal fib
Levi Damien, SB Nation
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/12/5608542/turns-out-oakland-mayors-princely-claim-was-royal-fib

Is she up for re-election this year? If so, she may be on her way out.

Yes she is up for re-election.

[Raider G360]

Turns out Oakland mayor's princely claim was royal fib
Levi Damien, SB Nation
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/12/5608542/turns-out-oakland-mayors-princely-claim-was-royal-fib

Is she up for re-election this year? If so, she may be on her way out.

[Randy]

Turns out Oakland mayor's princely claim was royal fib
Levi Damien, SB Nation
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2014/4/12/5608542/turns-out-oakland-mayors-princely-claim-was-royal-fib

[Randy]

Woman jumps from Coliseum's 3rd deck - 61 y/o US Marine Vet breaks her fall
David DeBolt, InsideBayArea.com

http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_24593320/woman-jumps-from-third-deck-coliseum

[Randy]

Coliseum board considers lease extensions for Raiders, Athletics
David DeBolt, InsideBayArea.com
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_24592634/oakland-coliseum-board-considers-lease-extensions-raiders-athletics

[Randy]

League tells teams not to cut their own L.A. deals

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/11/league-tells-teams-not-to-cut-their-own-l-a-deals/

[Raider Dee]

It's the Dolphins by the way , when you've finished arguing amongst yourselves.

Who's Coming to London! ?   

[RAIDER MIKE]

You confirmed ...I GOT YOU! ....thanks for the good laugh ...it's great having puppets on strings like you ....it cheers Me up!

Please PM me your address so I can FedEx your Tebow jersey to you...Bronco Mike...has a nice ring to it

Your hilarious!...talk about crying like a baby!...Thanks for all the time you spent posting about Me...I don't give out autographs sorry.... I GOT YOU!  Hahahahaha

[RaiderWildeStyle]

Come on Now..

Lets settle down with the name calling, We might not agree on who's city this team is but there is no need to make wild accusations like we are Broncos fans.

As for Coliseum City.. What a joke. This was a meeting attended by fans and councilmen. no team owners, no deep pocket investors in attendance. these Saudi Arabians better start talking (then walking) about a commitment to this development if it's only 1 team. I can gaurentee you that unless Lew Wolff sells his team the A's ain't staying in Oakland.

The Warriors have put money into this SF project. but i could see a team like the Kings, Bucks etc moving to the East Bay and then the Bay Area becoming a 2 hoop team town.

But i struggle to see how this development can succeed honestly with only 8 football games a year where it would be built on the back of a restaurant/entertainment precint which would be more beneficiial if they had baseballs 81 home games and hoops 41 homes games a year.

but time will tell.. and time is ticking!!!

Mark Davis saying all the right things which is positivie.. time to speak up "Deep Pocketed Investors"

[Toecutter]

Is Coliseum City idea Oakland's final shot to keep Raiders?
TIM KAWAKAMI, San Jose Mercury News
http://www.insidebayarea.com/tim-kawakami/ci_24330948/kawakami-is-coliseum-city-idea-oaklands-final-shot


Raiders fans cheer Oakland council's backing for stadium push
Matthew Artz, Oakland Tribune
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_24323040/raiders-fans-cheer-oakland-councils-backing-stadium-push

This most likely is the last gasp at keeping the raiders in the Oakland area.
Even the brain-dead city council voted 6-0 for the concept. easy on their part, they're not committing any money to the project, and have dropped it into the prospective investors laps to see where it goes.
Basically the council punted. At least they're not standing in the way, unless demands for bowling alleys, and ice cream shops gets in the way...

Now it's up the the Raiders, Bay Investment Group, and Colony Capital. The next couple of months will tell if these investment partners are truly serious, and if Davis must sell part of his ownership stake to ante up his commitment in lieu of cash, which he ain't got. Which he would most likely have to do if it comes to a L.A deal.

By April we'll know for sure (hopefully) which way the Raiders ships heads...we indeed are living in interesting times in the Raiders history...

[Toecutter]

Wow...just wow settle down Sonny-Jim.

By the way my intellectually challenged friend, by your bizarre reasoning your response to my post means...I GOT YOU.

Now please, calm down. Your childish ramblings are an embarrassment to the Raider Nation. Any fans of other clubs would think us gibbering neanderthals if they should perchance stumble upon one of your dissembling rants.

Any chance we could pitch in, and purchase a Broncos jersey for you to wear? It would help us all out a lot. Thanks.

LMFAO....you know when someone personally attacks or acts like you do....You know their lost and are desperate to get a reaction to their satisfaction.... Well... Thank you Bud!...you confirmed ...I GOT YOU! ....thanks for the good laugh ...it's great having puppets on strings like you ....it cheers Me up!

Hmmm, I've watched for some time before commenting on your ignorant treatment of other members of the Raider Nation.
You personally attack at the drop of a hat, yet, bizarrely claim others are "desperate to get a reaction".

Yes, you are the forum troll king, congratulations, this being your ownly accomplishment in your very young life I'm sure.
I of course have contributed to this, as giving you the only attention you'll ever receive in life. Sad really, for both of us.

Now, Mike, can I call you Mike? Or is it Micheal?
I've been in touch with the Bronco's concerning your leaving the Raider nation, and joining their fan base.
They were very excited to see you become one of them.
By leaving the Raider nation, and joining the Bronco whatevers you would have the dual accomplishment of raising the average IQ of both groups simultaneously. Bravo, my friend, bravo.

To help you in your transition I've purchased a Bronco's jersey to help you get used to wearing orange all the time.
They were out of Manning jerseys, but I got a smokin' deal on a Tebow. I got it in small, as I surmise from your posts you are a small man. If not one of the little people.
That is no insult, I adore you little folk, after all, what would Lord of the Rings be without your type?

Please PM me your address so I can FedEx your Tebow jersey to you...Bronco Mike...has a nice ring to it...

[RAIDER MIKE]

Wow...just wow settle down Sonny-Jim.

By the way my intellectually challenged friend, by your bizarre reasoning your response to my post means...I GOT YOU.

Now please, calm down. Your childish ramblings are an embarrassment to the Raider Nation. Any fans of other clubs would think us gibbering neanderthals if they should perchance stumble upon one of your dissembling rants.

Any chance we could pitch in, and purchase a Broncos jersey for you to wear? It would help us all out a lot. Thanks.

LMFAO....you know when someone personally attacks or acts like you do....You know their lost and are desperate to get a reaction to their satisfaction.... Well... Thank you Bud!...you confirmed ...I GOT YOU! ....thanks for the good laugh ...it's great having puppets on strings like you ....it cheers Me up!

[Randy]

Is Coliseum City idea Oakland's final shot to keep Raiders?
TIM KAWAKAMI, San Jose Mercury News
http://www.insidebayarea.com/tim-kawakami/ci_24330948/kawakami-is-coliseum-city-idea-oaklands-final-shot


Raiders fans cheer Oakland council's backing for stadium push
Matthew Artz, Oakland Tribune
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_24323040/raiders-fans-cheer-oakland-councils-backing-stadium-push

[Toecutter]

Time to drop your divisive attitude toward

Time for you to STFU... And thanks for responding to my post.....It Shows I got you!  .....Now go make suggestions to people who care

Wow...just wow settle down Sonny-Jim.

By the way my intellectually challenged friend, by your bizarre reasoning your response to my post means...I GOT YOU.

Now please, calm down. Your childish ramblings are an embarrassment to the Raider Nation. Any fans of other clubs would think us gibbering neanderthals if they should perchance stumble upon one of your dissembling rants.

Any chance we could pitch in, and purchase a Broncos jersey for you to wear? It would help us all out a lot. Thanks.

[RAIDER MIKE]

Time to drop your divisive attitude toward

Time for you to STFU... And thanks for responding to my post.....It Shows I got you!  .....Now go make suggestions to people who care

[Toecutter]

That's nationalistic nonsense. "My loyalty is better than your loyalty. Why? Because I say so. USA! USA!".

 If someone wants to post about how foreigners can never understand ... whatever it is they think foreigners can't understand

Hey Robert Why don't you just say what you really want to say.. and say it directly to Me... instead of talking shit ....The Hypocrisy is sickening and cowardly

He quoted you directly, then responded to your statements.
That pretty much fulfills the responding directly to you definition.
Now,  time to drop your divisive attitude toward those of the Raider NATION who don't live within 10 ft of Oco Coliseum.

[Tokai Raider]

That's nationalistic nonsense. "My loyalty is better than your loyalty. Why? Because I say so. USA! USA!".

 If someone wants to post about how foreigners can never understand ... whatever it is they think foreigners can't understand

Hey Robert Why don't you just say what you really want to say.. and say it directly to Me... instead of talking shit ....The Hypocrisy is sickening and cowardly

I'll post what I want where I want. I said what I wanted to say. Interpret it however you wish.

[RAIDER MIKE]

The Raiders are moving to L.A. probably anyway... The Mayor doesn't care and no one cares enough to stand up for it.... Except Mark Davis...  So their gone... Either way I'll be happy when the stadium gets built and put this fucking bullshit to bed... i am so sick of hearing about it

[RAIDER MIKE]

That's nationalistic nonsense. "My loyalty is better than your loyalty. Why? Because I say so. USA! USA!".

 If someone wants to post about how foreigners can never understand ... whatever it is they think foreigners can't understand

Hey Robert Why don't you just say what you really want to say.. and say it directly to Me... instead of talking shit ....The Hypocrisy is sickening and cowardly

[SROTBFM]

News just broke that the Raiders are set to play a home game in London next year

great for the UK Raider Nation obviously  , but not so great for you guys over there

RaiderNationPodcast - International Edition

Greg, Randy, Robert, Mike, Juan, Oscar, Rodney, Kev and all the rest of you guys - make the trip, it's gonna be a blast!

   be great to get all you guys here     I will be over for the titans game in november will be on a recruitment drive for you to come to london

Les:

Do you have any idea what we will have to do to get tickets for the game? Don't they have a lottery for tickets? Will we have to buy them from a ticket broker who resells them? Any recommendations? It's sort of strange being that it's technically a "home" Raiders game, but Raiders season ticket holders who normally purchase 8 home game tickets for regular season will not have this London game included in their home game ticket book as I understand it. I wonder if our season ticket package will be cheaper next year as a result. So someone who pays $100 per game for two seats and normally pays $1600 for the season (8 x $200) will only have to pay $1400 for the season (7 x $200)?

I think they do reserve an allocation for "home" fans - certainly when I was there a good number of Bostonians were present following the brady bunch.

Failing that, you can buy club packages direct from Wembley for around $500 if you lose out / don't want the hassle of the uk registration process.

Ticketmaster are the official partner.

What do those club packages from Wembley include? Two tickets? What are the "club" seats like? I'm not holding out much hope of getting tickets through the Raiders. When they went to the Superbowl vs Tampa Bay they had a lottery for about 5,000 tickets. Each person could buy 4 seats. With about 20,000 season ticket holders, not a very high percentage of them were selected. I was one who was not, and ended up paying $1700 for one ticket on eBay! THAT was sure money I wished I could get back about 15 minutes into the game.

The "Club Wembley" $500 package gets you one ticket(!) but gives you some benefits like a dedicated entrance for quick access, free food and drink for two hours before and after the game + halftime, a programme and lanyard (wow!), and a much less busy bar during the game. It's overpriced but it's only the packages Wembley sell direct. You can get just a club seat for about $200 but need to go through the official process.

The club seats are on the middle "belt" around the stadium, similar to the Coliseum. If you check the Wembley website I think they show you the view from any selected seat.

I seem to remember the NFL also offer official "experience" packages including tickets, travel etc for US fans. Again though, I'd expect it to be less expensive if you book travel / accomodation independently.

[Randy]

News just broke that the Raiders are set to play a home game in London next year

great for the UK Raider Nation obviously  , but not so great for you guys over there

RaiderNationPodcast - International Edition

Greg, Randy, Robert, Mike, Juan, Oscar, Rodney, Kev and all the rest of you guys - make the trip, it's gonna be a blast!

   be great to get all you guys here     I will be over for the titans game in november will be on a recruitment drive for you to come to london

Les:

Do you have any idea what we will have to do to get tickets for the game? Don't they have a lottery for tickets? Will we have to buy them from a ticket broker who resells them? Any recommendations? It's sort of strange being that it's technically a "home" Raiders game, but Raiders season ticket holders who normally purchase 8 home game tickets for regular season will not have this London game included in their home game ticket book as I understand it. I wonder if our season ticket package will be cheaper next year as a result. So someone who pays $100 per game for two seats and normally pays $1600 for the season (8 x $200) will only have to pay $1400 for the season (7 x $200)?

I think they do reserve an allocation for "home" fans - certainly when I was there a good number of Bostonians were present following the brady bunch.

Failing that, you can buy club packages direct from Wembley for around $500 if you lose out / don't want the hassle of the uk registration process.

Ticketmaster are the official partner.

What do those club packages from Wembley include? Two tickets? What are the "club" seats like? I'm not holding out much hope of getting tickets through the Raiders. When they went to the Superbowl vs Tampa Bay they had a lottery for about 5,000 tickets. Each person could buy 4 seats. With about 20,000 season ticket holders, not a very high percentage of them were selected. I was one who was not, and ended up paying $1700 for one ticket on eBay! THAT was sure money I wished I could get back about 15 minutes into the game.

[SROTBFM]

News just broke that the Raiders are set to play a home game in London next year

great for the UK Raider Nation obviously  , but not so great for you guys over there

RaiderNationPodcast - International Edition

Greg, Randy, Robert, Mike, Juan, Oscar, Rodney, Kev and all the rest of you guys - make the trip, it's gonna be a blast!

   be great to get all you guys here     I will be over for the titans game in november will be on a recruitment drive for you to come to london

Les:

Do you have any idea what we will have to do to get tickets for the game? Don't they have a lottery for tickets? Will we have to buy them from a ticket broker who resells them? Any recommendations? It's sort of strange being that it's technically a "home" Raiders game, but Raiders season ticket holders who normally purchase 8 home game tickets for regular season will not have this London game included in their home game ticket book as I understand it. I wonder if our season ticket package will be cheaper next year as a result. So someone who pays $100 per game for two seats and normally pays $1600 for the season (8 x $200) will only have to pay $1400 for the season (7 x $200)?

I think they do reserve an allocation for "home" fans - certainly when I was there a good number of Bostonians were present following the brady bunch.

Failing that, you can buy club packages direct from Wembley for around $500 if you lose out / don't want the hassle of the uk registration process.

Ticketmaster are the official partner.

[Randy]

News just broke that the Raiders are set to play a home game in London next year

great for the UK Raider Nation obviously  , but not so great for you guys over there

RaiderNationPodcast - International Edition

Greg, Randy, Robert, Mike, Juan, Oscar, Rodney, Kev and all the rest of you guys - make the trip, it's gonna be a blast!

   be great to get all you guys here     I will be over for the titans game in november will be on a recruitment drive for you to come to london

Les:

Do you have any idea what we will have to do to get tickets for the game? Don't they have a lottery for tickets? Will we have to buy them from a ticket broker who resells them? Any recommendations? It's sort of strange being that it's technically a "home" Raiders game, but Raiders season ticket holders who normally purchase 8 home game tickets for regular season will not have this London game included in their home game ticket book as I understand it. I wonder if our season ticket package will be cheaper next year as a result. So someone who pays $100 per game for two seats and normally pays $1600 for the season (8 x $200) will only have to pay $1400 for the season (7 x $200)?

[Englishraider]

News just broke that the Raiders are set to play a home game in London next year

great for the UK Raider Nation obviously  , but not so great for you guys over there

RaiderNationPodcast - International Edition

Greg, Randy, Robert, Mike, Juan, Oscar, Rodney, Kev and all the rest of you guys - make the trip, it's gonna be a blast!

   be great to get all you guys here     I will be over for the titans game in november will be on a recruitment drive for you to come to london 

[SROTBFM]

News just broke that the Raiders are set to play a home game in London next year

great for the UK Raider Nation obviously  , but not so great for you guys over there

RaiderNationPodcast - International Edition

Greg, Randy, Robert, Mike, Juan, Oscar, Rodney, Kev and all the rest of you guys - make the trip, it's gonna be a blast!

[Raider Dee]

News just broke that the Raiders are set to play a home game in London next year

great for the UK Raider Nation obviously  , but not so great for you guys over there

[Tokai Raider]

The Concord Stadium article is Irwindale 2013.

Mark probably just looking at Concord to start creating
 a) leverage &
b) sense of urgency by the Oakland Council to get shit done at the current site.

It makes sense for the team to have a backup plan, and Concord isn't as far out in the middle of nowhere as Irwindale was. With BART nearby, the naval station isn't too bad. How far is it from the freeway and Caltrain?

[RaiderWildeStyle]

The Concord Stadium article in Irwindale 2013.

Mark probably just looking at Concord to start creating
 a) leverage &
b) sense of urgency by the Oakland Council to get shit done at the current site.

[Tokai Raider]

I don't expect a foreigner like you to understand what that means....your just a visitor when you come here not a citizen of the U.S. so you don't understand the value of loyalty to your country or city

Wow. I came on here to post about the Raiders looking into building a stadium in Concord, on the old naval weapons station site (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Raiders-owner-scouts-Concord-site-for-new-stadium-4872699.php) but then I find this shit?

Let's examine the logic of these sentences. A tourist in the US won't understand the value of loyalty to their own country or city ... because ... why? Let's say a Spaniard from Madrid comes to the US to visit, and while he's in the US, he can't understand loyalty to Spain or Madrid? If he goes back to Spain, would he regain that understanding? Is it jet lag that makes him not understand?

What I think it means is that Americans supposedly have some special claim to loyalty. Someone who's visiting the US, and who's not an American citizen, can't understand what loyalty means to Americans. But that's ridiculous. This isn't some exclusive feeling that only Americans have. That's nationalistic nonsense. "My loyalty is better than your loyalty. Why? Because I say so. USA! USA!" I'm teaching a class this semester on nationalism ... but this BS isn't on the syllabus.

Can we stick to talking about football here? If someone wants to post about how foreigners can never understand ... whatever it is they think foreigners can't understand ... then I would like to respectfully suggest that they post that somewhere else. There's a ton of sites out there that cater to that topic. I say this knowing full well that I do not control this site, and am only a very thankful friend and fan of Greg and Randy's work.

[Toecutter]

....Like Pittsburgh Steelers....you think their fan base would stay strong if they moved to L.A.?  lol....or how About the NYG or N.E. or any historic franchise that's NEVER moved...do you think those cities wouldn't care cause it's about the team not city?  ....I don't expect a foreigner like you to understand what that means....your just a visitor when you come here not a citizen of the U.S. so you don't understand the value of loyalty to your country or city ....fans that watch on TV are not "Die Hard" the ones that go to every game are!  And if you did ....you'd know it's more then just about the team....

Firstly, Steelers, Giants, and Patriots are not "nations". Whereas the Raider Nation is truly a worldwide phenomena. The rest of these so-called "nations" are pale facsimiles. Fugazis.

I did not care for the move to L.A the first time, but that's how it played out. I was stoked that they moved back to Oakland where they belong. I hope, despite the utter incompetence of Oakland's city council, that a Oakland solution can be worked out.
Sharing a stadium with the Fortywhiners? I'd rather see them move to East Butthump Anywhereland.

From what I gather the only "true fan" is one who lives in Oakland, and can drive across town to the stadium.
If that was true, which it is not, then the Raider nation would be no nation at all. It would just like the Giants, Steelers, Pats, etc.

Since I live in a Fore-i-en country, and have only managed to attend one game, therefore I cannot be a "die-hard" fan? Bollocks to you, sir. Pretty easy to trash others because they don't incur the expense of traveling great distances to attend a game, when you have only, in comparison, have only to cross the street.

Due to your Homeland Insecurity rules some of us can no longer enter the Republic, however I see that terrorists, and Mexican gardeners are under no such prohibition.

But that gem of xenophobic ignorance was breathtaking. Somehow only 'Muricuns can possibly understand loyalty to one's country, or city. Having served in my countries armed forces, I should think I have some idea as to what loyalty means. Perhaps when you're old enough, you too can serve your country the same way.

[Tokai Raider]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_24209664/deep-pocketed-developers-sign-up-coliseum-city

this article was funny. mayor quan says she wants a bowling alley and a roller skating rink ... what? maybe she also wants a drive-in movie theater, a malt shop, a record store ... there's a reason no one is building those places anymore.

but best of all was her comment that the deep-pocketed investors will pay for her to build whatever she wants. she has that backwards. they invest so they can build what THEY want, not what you want. and that ain't gonna be a fucking bowling alley or a roller skating rink.

[Randy]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_24209664/deep-pocketed-developers-sign-up-coliseum-city


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